Thursday, January 25, 2007

The Christian Flag

christian-flag gif

I'm sorry but I think the Christian Flag is just weird. Why should we pledge to a flag about Jesus. I just want to worship and love Jesus, not a flag. Plus, it reminds me of something that would be carried in a crusade of killing the infidels. You can check the wikipedia on it here. "I pledge allegiance to the Christian flag and to the Savior for whose kingdom it stands..." This idea of the Kingdom is more of what the first century Jews were wanting and not the way that Jesus would describe His Kingdom. It's not about ruling a new Christian nation. It's about love and grace and redemption. Any thoughts?

christian flag on stand

9 comments:

Kim Tostada said...

I had to say a pledge to that flag every week of my life from kindergarten to 8th grade since I went to a private school during those years..we also had a pledge to the Bible that we recited.. It's funny because all those years we recited many things like that,that didn't mean anything to me (kinda like Catholics).. and it wasn't till I got involved in the Calvary Highschool ministry that I realized that the Christian life was more than all those recited things.. It was a life transforming walk w/ Jesus.. Thank God He opened my eyes to that life changing truth.

Mrs. Tostada

Victor Estrada said...

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ashdown said...

i used to dye my hair with koolaide...

i am with ya as well - it totally reminds me of the crusades - and do we really pledge allegiance to a flag? really?

Anonymous said...

I never really thought about it before, but it is kinda weird to pledge to a Christian flag and it does feel kind of Medieval. But maybe it is a way to show small children (really the only ones who recite a pledge to any flag) that there can be a connection between church and the real world. They make a pledge to the American flag every day in school, and then make the pledge to the Christian flag in VBS and AWANA. Maybe it helps kids to make the connection that what they learn in church is equally as valid as what they learn in school. I am stretching to far?

Anonymous said...

enjoy!

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Anonymous said...

I think that it is just like the American Flag. By saying the salute, we're basically confirming our loyalty. That's kinda how I see it. Plus... who doesn't think it's fun to say things in unison???

Eric Wakeling said...

I think the key here is that it causes a huge confusion in what the Kingdom of God is all about. It's the whole confusion that we are supposed to be building a nation-state of believers in God who will dominate others instead of living to bring justice, peace, redemption, and grace to a world filled with the opposite. It's about the beatitudes.

Anonymous said...

"it's the whole confusion that we are supposed to be building a nation-state of believers in God who will dominate others instead of living to bring justice, peace, redemption, and grace to a world filled with the opposite"

Most people wont take it this far, but for those that do, I say we burn them at the stake, with their flag!

Anonymous said...

In church we were taught the pledge and never think anything bad about it.

It doesn't specify what the Kingdom of God is in the pledge but if anyone reads their New Testament they will know the Kingdom we refer to is "neither meat or drink" or "not of this world or they would come fight for me" Of course I paraphrase these biblical references. It defines the Kingdom that we believers are born again into spiritually upon salvation.

In churches I have seen the Christian Flag and it's pledge used the Kingdom of God has always been taught to be a spiritual Kingdom made up of all true believers. You conveniently forget to show the whole pledge. Ends with "...one brotherhood uniting all true Christian in Service and in Love." It refers to the unity of true Christians right after the part about the Kingdom is mentioned. That is the meaning of Kingdom in this pledge is the collective body of true believers his sheep from whatever nation, tribe, tongue, or lineage. It is not meant to teach dominionism!

As to first centuries Jews wanting a physical Kingdom the nation of Israel was used as a physical example of a spiritual truth. Remember they were used to types, shadows, and physical things being used to represent spiritual truth God wanted them to learn.

New Testament scriptures clarify many times what the Kingdom is and is not. Any bible believing church will teach that the references to Kingdom or Kingdom of God is a collective of true sheep or believers.